{"id":1024876,"date":"2024-03-22T01:45:02","date_gmt":"2024-03-22T08:45:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/?p=1024876"},"modified":"2024-03-23T10:25:56","modified_gmt":"2024-03-23T17:25:56","slug":"trading-bots-that-actually-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/trading-bots-that-actually-work\/","title":{"rendered":"The Only Trading Bots that Actually Work"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/W6W3rzcy24Y?si=R38ba6v4NkbpRjoZ\" width=\"840\" height=\"450\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">?<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><div class=\"post-aff-notice\">When you buy something through one of the links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission.<\/div><\/p>\n<p>Are you tired of losing money on trading robots that promise you profits, but never deliver? Look no further than this article, where I will share the truth about which trading bots actually work and how to find one that fits your unique personality.<\/p>\n<p>Many fully automated bots fail for a variety of reasons, including over-optimization, poor instructions, and even fraud.<\/p>\n<p><strong>However, there are three types of trading bots that actually work: those you build yourself, those created by a proven trader, and those that only partially automate your trading strategy.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Keep reading to discover how to avoid the pitfalls of ineffective bots and find ones that work for you.<\/p>\n<p>Note: I talk mostly about MetaTrader EAs in the video, but the same logic also applies to trading robots in crypto, futures, stocks and every other trading market.<\/p>\n<h2>My Personal Experience with Trading Robots<\/h2>\n<p><em>I told him it wasn't a good idea.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>But my friend insisted that he had <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/how-to-use-strategy-tester-mt5\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">backtested<\/a> the robots and they <em>should<\/em> work fine.<\/p>\n<p>Now I don't know how well he actually tested them, but I took his word for it.<\/p>\n<p>Back in the day, my buddy put most of his retirement money into a Forex brokerage account and bought a bunch of MetaTrader EAs to trade it for him.<\/p>\n<p>His logic was the bots represented diverse range trading strategies, so that would help him mitigate the drawdowns and should make money on balance.<\/p>\n<p>I checked in with him a couple of months later and the robots had drained almost all of his account.<\/p>\n<p>He finally threw in the towel and shut it all down.<\/p>\n<p><strong>This story has always stuck with me because it's a perfect example of why it's not a good idea to put any faith in third party trading robots.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Around a similar time, I also experimented with one robot.<\/p>\n<p>The trouble I had with the bot was that the creators would change the &#8220;optimal&#8221; settings every couple of weeks.<\/p>\n<p>From what little I knew about trading back then, I knew that there was no way that the robot could have been legit.<\/p>\n<p>Settings should not change that frequently.<\/p>\n<p>I did make a little money though, but I knew that it was just a matter of time before the robot blew up.<\/p>\n<p>So I took my profits and never took another trade with a third party robot again.<\/p>\n<p>Since those experiences, I've learned a lot about automated trading and what works and doesn't work.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Here's how trading bots can help you and what to avoid.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Why Most Trading Bots Don't Work<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1024884 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/backtesting-results-6.jpg\" alt=\"Backtesting results\" width=\"1052\" height=\"339\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/backtesting-results-6.jpg 1052w, https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/backtesting-results-6-768x247.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1052px) 100vw, 1052px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>First I'll show you what to avoid.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The reality is that almost all third party trading robots simply do not work.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Regardless of how good their marketing is, <em>they are all doomed to fail<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Here's why&#8230;<\/p>\n<h3>Over Optimization<\/h3>\n<p><strong>One of the main reasons why most bots do not work is due to over optimization, sometimes called curve fitting.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Many trading robots are designed to perform very well in specific market conditions, such as trending markets.<\/p>\n<p>However, they may not perform well in other market conditions, such as ranging markets.<\/p>\n<p>This is because they are over-optimized and do not take into account all market conditions.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, if you look carefully, you'll notice that many bots are only backtested over a period of less than 2 years.<\/p>\n<p>The reason is that it's very easy to optimize a strategy over a very short period of time.<\/p>\n<p>But creating a strategy that makes money across different types of markets is difficult.<\/p>\n<p>As a result, the EA may appear extremely profitable in the short term, but will usually fail to deliver consistent profits in the long run.<\/p>\n<h3>Mismatch With User Personality<\/h3>\n<p>Another reason why most fully automated trading programs do not work is that they do not match the user's personality.<\/p>\n<p>Even if a robot is profitable, it may not be suitable for a user who is risk-averse or cannot tolerate large drawdowns.<\/p>\n<p>This is because the bot may have a high-risk profile and may not match the user's <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/how-to-figure-out-your-trading-risk-tolerance-personality-and-why-it-matters\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">risk profile<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>For example, let's say that a robot really can make 70% per year.<\/p>\n<p>But it's also going to have 60% drawdowns to achieve that return.<\/p>\n<p>Most people won't be able to handle a 60% drawdown and will turn off the robot before it can make the money back.<\/p>\n<h3>Poor Instructions<\/h3>\n<p>Many bots come with poor instructions, which can make it difficult for users to set them up properly.<\/p>\n<p>If an trading robot is not set up correctly, it may not perform as expected, and may fail to achieve the desired results.<\/p>\n<p>I looked at the user instructions on the websites of several different trading robots when I was in my bot phase and almost all of them were terrible.<\/p>\n<p>They didn't explain what the settings did and why they were being changed.<\/p>\n<p>None of them explained the strategy in detail.<\/p>\n<p>Many websites were in broken English.<\/p>\n<p><strong>As I always say, If you don't know a trading strategy works, how will you know when it stops working?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You don't.<\/p>\n<p>So if a bot creator cannot explain exactly how a trading robot works, and how to set it up correctly, you have zero chance of making money with it.<\/p>\n<h3>Potential Fraud<\/h3>\n<p>Unfortunately, there are bots in the market that are completely fraudulent and do not deliver the promised results.<\/p>\n<p>Some of the common types of fraud include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Photoshopped performance graph<\/li>\n<li>Bsacktesting without transaction fees<\/li>\n<li>Deposit and withdrawal tricks<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The first 2 issues are self explanatory, but deposit and withdrawal trick might not be, so I'lll briefly explain that one.<\/p>\n<p>What some shady bot makers do is put their bot's example account on a public trading tracking website like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/video-tour-of-myfxbook\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MyFxBook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>When they are about to have a winning trade, they withdraw money from the account before they have a winner, so the winner is a much bigger percentage of the account.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, if they are going to have a loss, they deposit money to the account so the loss looks much smaller than normal.<\/p>\n<p>Fortunately, this is easy to spot if you look at the trades log.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, the other two frauds are not as easy to spot.<\/p>\n<p>So that's why it's important to stay away from 100% automated, third party trading robots altogether.<\/p>\n<h2>Types of Trading Bots that Actually Work<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-1024885 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/successful-strategy.jpg\" alt=\"Trading bot that actually works\" width=\"1055\" height=\"341\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/successful-strategy.jpg 1055w, https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/successful-strategy-768x248.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1055px) 100vw, 1055px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>However, there are instances where a bot can work.<\/p>\n<p>They may not be what you think, so read the next section carefully.<\/p>\n<h3>Self-Built Bots<\/h3>\n<p>One type of successful trading robot is the one you build yourself.<\/p>\n<p>This can be done by either programming it yourself or creating a manual trading strategy and then automating it later.<\/p>\n<p>The probability of success is higher because you know exactly how the strategy works, it fits with your <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/trader-personality-profile\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">personality<\/a>, and if something goes wrong, you will know it immediately.<\/p>\n<p>If you want a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/automated-bollinger-bands-strategy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">fully automated trading strategy<\/a>, this is the best way to go, in my opinion.<\/p>\n<h3>Mentor-Assisted Trading Robots<\/h3>\n<p>Another type of successful bot is one from someone who has backtested it significantly and is willing to personally mentor you on how to use it.<\/p>\n<p>They should already be using the robot successfully themselves and be willing to tell you how it works.<\/p>\n<p>If the mentor is not willing to tell you how the bot works, that's a huge red flag and you should run in the opposite direction.<\/p>\n<p>The mentor should also be willing to get on zoom calls with you and show you how to use it.<\/p>\n<p>I like this option the least because there can still be an issue with personality matching between you and the bot.<\/p>\n<p>But having a mentor there to help you and knowing how the trading program actually works are two big steps in the right direction.<\/p>\n<p>Just be careful and do your homework before committing to any mentor.<\/p>\n<h3>Partial Automation Bots<\/h3>\n<p><strong>The third and final type of successful trading robot, and my favorite, is the type that only does partial automation.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>These bots can automate your entry, exit, or trade management, but not the entire strategy.<\/p>\n<p>The most useful ones are those that automate your exit, as they allow you to use trailing stops and potentially capture more profits on your trades.<\/p>\n<p>Partially automated robots are less complex and can save you time and make you money while you sleep.<\/p>\n<p>Since they aren't controlling all of the trading, you still have a lot of input into the success of the strategy.<\/p>\n<p>For many traders, this is the happy medium between manual trading and full automation.<\/p>\n<p>We have a few <a href=\"https:\/\/store.tradingheroes.com\/product-category\/metatrader-4-expert-advisor\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">EAs for MetaTrader<\/a> that might work for you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It's best to avoid fully automated trading robots, as they usually do not work due to the reasons listed above.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Remember, if you don't know how an off-the-shelf bot works, how do you know when it stopped working?<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>How to Find an Bot That Works<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1024886\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/trading-chart-4.jpg\" alt=\"Trading chart\" width=\"1200\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/trading-chart-4.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.tradingheroes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/trading-chart-4-768x384.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Now that you know which types of bots actually work, here's how to find or create the best trading robot to you.<\/p>\n<p>Keep in mind that this is a process, so you may have to try different avenues and do a lot of testing before you find something that works for you.<\/p>\n<h3>Develop a Strategy Yourself<\/h3>\n<p>One way to find a trading bot that works is to develop a manual trading strategy yourself.<\/p>\n<p>This allows you to know how the strategy works and custom tailor it to your personality.<\/p>\n<p>Once you have a successful manual strategy, it's easy to hire a programmer that can create the bot.<\/p>\n<p>Or you can learn to code yourself by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mql5.com\/en\/code\/mt4\/experts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">looking at some examples<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The hard part is coming up with a strategy that actually works.<\/p>\n<p>However, remember that not all trading strategies can be programmed into a computer.<\/p>\n<p>So if that's the case, then you'll have to move on to the next option.<\/p>\n<h3>Seek Partial Automation Solutions<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Another way to find a trading robot that works is to look for partial automation solutions.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>These EAs only automate part of the trade, such as entry, exit, or trade management.<\/p>\n<p>The best partial automation EAs are those that automate exits, as they allow you to use trailing stops and capture more profits on your trades.<\/p>\n<p>It is important to note that most fully automated EAs do not work for several reasons.<\/p>\n<p>Firstly, many EAs are over-optimized and only work in certain market conditions.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, EAs may not match with the trader's personality or risk profile, leading to turning off the EA at random times.<\/p>\n<p>Thirdly, some EAs come with terrible instructions, making it difficult to set up properly.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly, there is straight-up fraud in the EA market, with some vendors photoshopping performance graphs or backtesting without commissions or spread.<\/p>\n<p>Overall, it is best to either develop a manual strategy and automate parts of it or seek out partial automation solutions.<\/p>\n<p>Building your own EA or finding a proven trader to mentor you on their EA can also be successful, but these options are rare.<\/p>\n<p>When selecting an EA, always be cautious and avoid anything that seems too good to be true.<\/p>\n<h3>Find a Mentor<\/h3>\n<p>I saved this one for last because it's actually pretty hard to do.<\/p>\n<p>The ideal situation would be to work with someone that you've known for some time and trust.<\/p>\n<p>There are just too many trading robot frauds out there to know who to trust.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So I would generally advise against going this route, unless you know for sure that a person is legit.\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Conclusion<\/h2>\n<p>In summary, it is important to be cautious when choosing a trading robot.<\/p>\n<p>Most fully automated bots do not work for several reasons, including over-optimization, not matching with the user's risk profile, poor instructions, and straight up fraud.<\/p>\n<p>However, there are three types of EAs that have been proven to be successful.<\/p>\n<p>Explore those options if automated or semi-automated trading appeals to you.<\/p>\n<p>Remember to always be cautious and do your research before investing in a robot or programmer.<\/p>\n<p>But by following these guidelines, you can dramtically increase your chances of having a bot that actually works.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Most trading robots don&#8217;t work. 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